An Ex-Gnome Tank's World

I’ve got to be kidding?

October 20th, 2008 Posted in Bosses, Burning Crusade

Are you kidding me? You can’t wait 4 weeks for a new challenge while less
hardcore players get a chance to see the content you’ve been taking for granted?

A friend of mine, who isn’t so lucky as I am, asked me the above after I complained that raids were now too easy. It’s a sentiment I think is well worth exploring. We’ve all seen now how much easier almost every boss is in the current state of affairs.

Last night The Hidden Circle zerged through Black Temple, downing everything from Supremus to the Illidari Council in under three hours. It was rather ridiculous, really. The difficulty is gone, and with it some of the enjoyment. We still have some new content to poke at, Sunwell, which I expect we’ll see soon, and I expect some challenge there, but to have Illidan in his previous form stolen from us is somewhat disappointing.

On the other hand, I understand that it’s nice for the more casual players to experience the content before it becomes completely obsolete. I don’t want to take the opportunity to experience the content away. I also appreciate that I’m lucky to have seen as much as I have – in terms of Vanilla WoW, I never saw Blackwing Lair, Naxxramas or much of Molten Core. That doesn’t mean I’m being elitist when I’m disappointed that things I was working toward are now nerfed to ridicule (as an example, Reliquary of Souls phase 1 last night didn’t reach the enrage).

It’s a shame that the old style bosses (minus, maybe, shear) couldn’t be activated by maybe adding a Heroic mode for raid instances, and with normal mode dropping gear from the previous tier (say SSC gear from BT). That way casual players could see the content, and the higher-end (I won’t use the word “hardcore”, because I know true hardcore players and I couldn’t cope with it) raiders could carry on almost like they were before.

  1. 6 Responses to “I’ve got to be kidding?”

  2. By Jane Gray on Oct 21, 2008

    Why don’t you want those casual players to have a chance to get some gear that will actually last them until 80? Giving them tier 5 loot would hardly be fair. All the truly hardcore people I know (who of course finished sunwell ages ago) are resting up for the push to 80 or putting together fun pugs for the content thats easy for them but still new for others.

  3. By Tankette on Oct 21, 2008

    Blizz should have thought about your idea to have the option to do a raid at full strength. Even then it wouldn’t be quite the same since everyone’s character was greatly enhanced in the patch.

    I am glad to get the chance to see more content but I wish WoTLK release would have been in another 6 months or so. In that time I think my guild would have made it through BT and into Sunwell.

  4. By Namthe on Oct 21, 2008

    “Why don’t you want those casual players to have a chance to get some gear that will actually last them until 80?”

    A good question, and one I hadn’t really considered. I’d mainly thought in terms of the raids in Lich King whereby “Normal” and “Heroic” raids drop loot that’s a tier different. I guess I was thinking that the difficulty should correspond to the loot, though, granted, there’s no real reason for that to be the case.

    In any case, very little of anyone’s gear is going to make it to level 80. When last I checked, even my Bulwark of Azzinoth, which was once a massive status symbol, is obsolete by level 77.

  5. By Jane Gray on Oct 22, 2008

    I’ve always thought the difference in the loot shouldn’t be the pieces but the number per person. Say two pieces drop in 10 man and 6 or 7 in 25 man (because really, once your guild can kill the boss, the mechanic whereby you have to kill it a dozen more times is just silly). I think blizzard did say they were upping the amount of loot dropped per boss in wrath anyway.

  6. By Herc on Oct 22, 2008

    I understand your frustration that you wanted to beat the bosses on “normal mode” or pre 3.0 state.

    However I thank Blizz for doing it. My guild just got on Twins before 3.0. Monday night we got KJ down. No were not awesome lol. It’s just the encouters have been ridiculously dumbed down its funny (KJ took 2 nights it was still GTFO of the fire problems lol?).

    Have fun in sunwell. Some of the encouters were really well thought of even though at its current nerfed state. And if you just focus on sunwell I’m sure you’ll get KJ down (wooot achievment!)

  7. By Kro on Nov 9, 2008

    It took you 3 hours to not even clear the instance? And that’s with a nerf? How can you complain about that?

    I guess I’m just not hard-core enough… Spending 3 hours in Kara makes me want to put my fist through the computer screen… I can’t imagine spending 3+ hours in BT or whatever…

    I can’t wait for WotLK 10 Man Raids!

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