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		<title>By: Pike</title>
		<link>https://downhere.dentrassi.net/2008/06/dps-how-not-to-do-it-1-hunters/comment-page-1/#comment-119</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Huge thanks for this post, there are waaaaaay too many of my fellow hunters out there who I run into who do NOT know this type of stuff.  And they should, because it&#039;s basic stuff.

In a place with lots of opportunities for LOS then I am usually fine trapping casters even without Silencing Shot.  But it&#039;s admittedly a risk you will have to take, asking a hunter to do that... probably many are not sure how.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huge thanks for this post, there are waaaaaay too many of my fellow hunters out there who I run into who do NOT know this type of stuff.  And they should, because it&#8217;s basic stuff.</p>
<p>In a place with lots of opportunities for LOS then I am usually fine trapping casters even without Silencing Shot.  But it&#8217;s admittedly a risk you will have to take, asking a hunter to do that&#8230; probably many are not sure how.</p>
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		<title>By: Namthe</title>
		<link>https://downhere.dentrassi.net/2008/06/dps-how-not-to-do-it-1-hunters/comment-page-1/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Namthe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I welcome necromancy, especially when it makes valid points like this. Very much agree with all of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I welcome necromancy, especially when it makes valid points like this. Very much agree with all of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Woogsum</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Woogsum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a bit of a necropost, but I wanted to add a little bit about Feign Death. FD should almost never be used *after* aggro has been pulled, only before to compensate for Hunters&#039; lack of innate threat reduction. The logic goes thus:

Hunters are ranged DPS, so when aggro is pulled, and a mob charges over towards a Hunter, the aggro calculations go pear-shaped. Maybe, if the Hunter feigns, the mob will go back to the tank. But maybe the threat numbers make it go eat the mage or warlock instead. It&#039;s an uncertain situation.

The alternative is a more certain situation, which is to off-tank the mob until, at minimum, the tank is back in melee range. More often than not, waiting for a taunt/MB/roar is superior. Why?

There&#039;s no one in a five-man, other than the tank or a Paladin, who is more survivable than a Hunter. Hunter itemisation is such that they stack mitigation and avoidance stats moreso than anything but a tank. Group-buffed with Monkey up, 10k health and 30% dodge is not outrageous. Tack on all the kiting and CC tools (Conc Shot, Wing Clip, traps), and any Hunter worth grouping with will take a mob&#039;s DPS better than virtually any other member.

This strategy ensures also that the tank knows where the mob will be during the time it takes him to run back over to the mob. It ensures that Intervene isn&#039;t wasted on a suddenly Feigned Hunter while the mob traipses off to a healer. It simply reduces the variables present in the situation, which works out a lot better than playing the ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a bit of a necropost, but I wanted to add a little bit about Feign Death. FD should almost never be used *after* aggro has been pulled, only before to compensate for Hunters&#8217; lack of innate threat reduction. The logic goes thus:</p>
<p>Hunters are ranged DPS, so when aggro is pulled, and a mob charges over towards a Hunter, the aggro calculations go pear-shaped. Maybe, if the Hunter feigns, the mob will go back to the tank. But maybe the threat numbers make it go eat the mage or warlock instead. It&#8217;s an uncertain situation.</p>
<p>The alternative is a more certain situation, which is to off-tank the mob until, at minimum, the tank is back in melee range. More often than not, waiting for a taunt/MB/roar is superior. Why?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no one in a five-man, other than the tank or a Paladin, who is more survivable than a Hunter. Hunter itemisation is such that they stack mitigation and avoidance stats moreso than anything but a tank. Group-buffed with Monkey up, 10k health and 30% dodge is not outrageous. Tack on all the kiting and CC tools (Conc Shot, Wing Clip, traps), and any Hunter worth grouping with will take a mob&#8217;s DPS better than virtually any other member.</p>
<p>This strategy ensures also that the tank knows where the mob will be during the time it takes him to run back over to the mob. It ensures that Intervene isn&#8217;t wasted on a suddenly Feigned Hunter while the mob traipses off to a healer. It simply reduces the variables present in the situation, which works out a lot better than playing the </p>
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		<title>By: Drotara</title>
		<link>https://downhere.dentrassi.net/2008/06/dps-how-not-to-do-it-1-hunters/comment-page-1/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drotara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just stumbled across your blog through some other linking. Great site. I love finding people who can post about some of their end-game experiences. Look forward to reading more!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just stumbled across your blog through some other linking. Great site. I love finding people who can post about some of their end-game experiences. Look forward to reading more!</p>
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		<title>By: Dezdemone</title>
		<link>https://downhere.dentrassi.net/2008/06/dps-how-not-to-do-it-1-hunters/comment-page-1/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dezdemone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey you! Good post. I hope a lot of huntards read your blog =) hehehe]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey you! Good post. I hope a lot of huntards read your blog =) hehehe</p>
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		<title>By: Nam</title>
		<link>https://downhere.dentrassi.net/2008/06/dps-how-not-to-do-it-1-hunters/comment-page-1/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, there are plenty of good hunters out there, I agree. I&#039;m not necessarily talking to them though :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, there are plenty of good hunters out there, I agree. I&#8217;m not necessarily talking to them though <img src="https://downhere.dentrassi.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tankette</title>
		<link>https://downhere.dentrassi.net/2008/06/dps-how-not-to-do-it-1-hunters/comment-page-1/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tankette]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BG should have meen GM. How did I type that, lol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BG should have meen GM. How did I type that, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Tankette</title>
		<link>https://downhere.dentrassi.net/2008/06/dps-how-not-to-do-it-1-hunters/comment-page-1/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tankette]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have done some instances with our BG who happens to be a hunter and he is great. His pet is on the main target unless something goes wrong and a mob goes after a healer. At that point the pet off tanks to by time. It has saved our butts several times.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have done some instances with our BG who happens to be a hunter and he is great. His pet is on the main target unless something goes wrong and a mob goes after a healer. At that point the pet off tanks to by time. It has saved our butts several times.</p>
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		<title>By: Loronar</title>
		<link>https://downhere.dentrassi.net/2008/06/dps-how-not-to-do-it-1-hunters/comment-page-1/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Loronar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I want more good tanks like you. :) Just dropping by to say hi.

PS. Your character looks almost exactly the same as the warrior I&#039;m trying to level. &gt;.&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want more good tanks like you. <img src="https://downhere.dentrassi.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" />  Just dropping by to say hi.</p>
<p>PS. Your character looks almost exactly the same as the warrior I&#8217;m trying to level. &gt;.&gt;</p>
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